Though these are all reluctantly permitted and tolerated by God (an extension of God’s gracious condescension to a fallen world), none represents God’s ultimate desire for his creatures. It has given me hope, freedom and purpose I never could have imagined possible. For anyone who cares the quote from “Well-Known Pastor Guy” is the pastor of Mars Hill Seattle Calvinist Mega-Church, Mark Driscoll, from an article from the August 28, 2007 edition of Relevant Magazine. Just Google the infamous – “Hatchery Horrors: Video Shows No Mercy for Baby Chicks…” and we can see what they’re doing! 9 It was about noon the next day. They give thanks to God. The answer isn't as straightforward as you might think. We live in a world today where most everything we ‘consume’ has been brought to us by someone else. It shows that only one has the character to show God’s power in its true form, and it is the slain lamb. 4 And I began to weep bitterly because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. Adults with Disabilities It has transformed my life in some really radical ways. It is a much bigger subject than that, it is all about our character in handling what the Lord has made and in presenting Christ to the world in all we do, including in our food choices! Some years ago I had a very vivid techni-colour dream (?) 6 Those who think one day is special do it to honor the Lord. The images of the lion and the lamb are well known in the bible. And people who don’t eat everything must not judge those who do. I personally find eating something like a “Dolphin” for example, a pretty mean thing to do, but for many Japanese, it’s quite a normal delicacy. 16K likes. Lamb & Lion Ministries was established for the purpose of proclaiming the soon return of Jesus. As a result, he was about how to accomplish his evil design. We are all in this together! Farming is no longer done in a fashion that is merciful. Symbolically, Jesus is the Lion from the tribe of Judah, the descendant of King David. Emergency Assistance Video File How many lions does it take to kill a lamb? It would seem that in centuries past, earlier depictions of them were a bit more subtle and tame, but now most contemporary images have them being more nightmarish and phantasmagorical. How many lions does it take to kill a lamb? I believe in what they’re doing. Lauren. It is a plea that we, as those who profess to love the Savior, as the body of Christ, would look at what He has made with new eyes, to “see what He sees” and to have our hearts broken for what breaks His…. Peter went up on the roof to pray. The message is that we should, in all times, refuse to conform to our Babylon. I haven’t forgotten that God is the same yesterday, today & tomorrow (forever), and I do not view it as a contradiction of character for God to punish sin as He is holy. Christ is of course, our substitute and that’s why it says in Hebrews 9:12 –, “But by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.”, That’s why the blood soaked Lamb is the only one worthy to open those seals on The Scroll. For those who want to use the scripture as justification to eat meat (I agree with M85, some things are most likely “an extension of God’s gracious condescension to a fallen world”), visit a factory farm, tune into an animal welfare organization such as Farm Sanctuary, read one of Andrew Linzey’s books (theologian, founder and director of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics), watch an undercover video of what is happening in our world to food animals and animals produced for clothing or fur. Can someone help me. Don’t judge them where you have differences of opinion. The answer isn't as straightforward as you might think. The Lord Jesus Is Called the Root of David (Rev. You either get stuff done or you’re road kill and it can happen in a New York minute. There are times throughout history where we see an apocalyptic fever that runs amok. This seems to be one of those times. Romans 14:1-6 Because of the well-known characteristics of lions, they were of special interest to a broad spectrum of people across the ancient Near East and Africa.1 Due to the lion’s power and boldness, lions were often hunted for sport, especially by the Assyrian kings.2 Some captured lions were even kept in captivity (cf. Support Groups, ON-SITE PARTNERSHIPS New Heavens/New Earth or Millennial Kingdom, we will eat meat of any kind? I think you’re so right about the fear thing. The Lion and the Lamb both refer to Jesus Christ. : «Theological Animal». As the lion he is the judge who will punish his enemies. A Little About Us Lions are large, powerful, and dangerous. 6 Then I saw between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders a Lamb standing as if it had been slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. So the question of mudding water on his part did not arise. Myself and another Christian animal welfarist started a blog in hopes of bringing the message of Christ to animal welfare, as well as the message of animal welfare to the faith community. Many people see Jesus as coming back to this Earth as a roaring lion that will seek its vengeance upon our enemies. But the lamb tried to refute the accusation that he was taking wafer from downstream. Job Skills Program And your take on John 21:1-14 where Jesus after the Resurrection makes breakfast for Peter & John and other disciples. I scanned each person I saw for clothing that might hide a gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMWqAuQDKs, Your email address will not be published. Do think that in The Resurrection i.e. "LION AND THE LAMB" in the KJV Bible. But the book of Revelation shares that God’s power is expressed in a slain lamb and not a roaring lion. I guess I’ve come to land on believing it really doesn’t matter if He was or wasn’t vegetarian (though I believe He very well could have been). Kids Now, in quoting these passages I’m not suggesting that anyone is “weak” or that “anything goes” that squirms or moves – some things are just plain disgusting to considering eating like “Svio”- boiled sheep’s head or “Ukha”- fish head soup – Ha! Other On-Site Churches, SERMONS Others think all days are the same. 2 The faith of some people allows them to eat anything. You know Paul taught that he did not want people to get all hooked up over and in arguments about food. This book wasn’t written to a future church, but was written to the Christians of the first century and still has application for us today. In my early childhood, I read a story in which a lamb and a lion were quenching their thirst in a small stream.Though the lion was located upstream, he accused the lamb of making the water dirty. Come Up Here, I Want to Show You Something | mutteringheart, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMWqAuQDKs. The Lion Will Lie Down With The Lamb. I will not!” Peter replied. 1 decade ago. What are your thoughts on Luke 24:41-43? 12 It had all kinds of four-footed animals in it. Youth Development All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. But this doesn’t necessarily mean we should eat fish (or any other invertebrate given they are raised/treated in an un-biblical manner) in today’s world. Discipleship School, WOODLAND HILLS He is both the conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah and the Lamb who was slain. The lion saw the lamb and wanted to devour him. A lion is a meat eater, and a lamb is peaceful and doesnt eat meat. * Paul McCartney said “If slaughterhouses had glass walls, we would all be vegetarian.” CAFO’s should have glass walls, we’d be vegetarian before they made it to slaughter….. Paul tells us to “put on love above all else.” Col 3:14. I am very aware that Revelation has symbolic meaning and I do not look to the book in an effort to connect it to modern events/conspiracy theories. Are you a lion or a lamb? 0 0. December 2, 2020 December 1, 2020 | Stuart France “Tell me,” said Joshua, “why is that person carrying a lamb to the city ?” Judas Thomas said, “So that he may kill it and eat it.” Joshua said, “Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy. e.g., Dan. I believe more than ever, we are being called to wake up to what is happening all around us in our world today, to be aware of the origins of what we are buying, how it is made, produced, etc. We do not believe it is possible to know the date when Jesus will return. Jesus paid the price in blood for us which no man could have ever done. Not that we get legalistic. There is only one perfect Human and perfect Lord and that is Jesus Christ. 5 Some people consider one day to be more holy than another. God bless your day, may His hand be upon you; WHC, you and all the leadership are in my prayers daily. What’s the difference? Lamb & Lion Ministries was established for the purpose of proclaiming the soon return of Jesus. ", 1740 Van Dyke St. You see, it is not about whether we get to eat animals or not! Take a moment and look into the eyes of the animals you are eating, look at how they are being *raised. It also had reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then the lion retorted that perhaps his father was mudding water for him in the last year. At the touch of a button one can find them. Men's Bible Study More than ever today, we urgently need to look at the times we live in to determine whether something is right for us to do or not, especially when it comes to food and consumerism in general. Either way, it’s led to a frightening milieu artistic representations over the years. Now, none of this is being said in any way shape or form to be argumentative or judgmental. 7th-12th Grade He/They cook up some of the fish they’ve just miraculously caught. As persons of faith, responsible for the welfare of the planet, each other and all living things on it, as those made in the Image of God, more than ever today, it is urgent that we know where what we buy comes from, or we end up partaking in evils we most likely would not partake in if we saw it for ourselves, and we inadvertently violate the principles of love that the gospel message is all about. 180 Instances - Page 6 of 6 - Sort by Book Order Expand or Limit Your Search Results: All KJV books Old Testament only New Testament only Apocrypha only (?) I’m just wondering why it is that Pastor Boyd, a bible believing Christian, won’t call out the false teachers of his day by name as did the apostle Paul? After the flood things were obviously different; why else would God have told Noah to eat meat? Chloe Lamb. Worship Set Lists Also, the angel with the flaming sword blocking mans entrance back into “Eden” is also considered to be a Cherubim by some scholars. Jesus is also the killed lamb because of his sacrifice. These same creatures or very similar ones, pop up in Ezekiel’s, as well as Isaiah’s visions with slight variations. If the lion has to devour the lamb, it can come up with several excuses to justify its action of killing. A pre-fall state of non-violence and perfect harmony between us and creation is what God intended, and what He intends to return us to one day. They say when the lion and lamb live together in harmony is when there will be peace. “Do not say anything is not pure that God has made ‘clean,’” it said. Women's Book Club We put the gospel message in jeopardy when we do not understand consumerism. The lion saw the lamb and wanted to devour him. It was being let down to earth by its four corners. Compare Masaccio’s “Expulsion from the Garden of Eden” fresco cira: 1425, with recent Cherubim paintings online. Required fields are marked *. But even in spite of that, I think what Paul was trying to get at is that we should make the ethical and loving choices, choices that honor each other as to not “trip up your brother.” “Let’s not argue about these things but do what it takes so that your brother feels loved by you.” Today, making the ethical and loving choices may look much different than it did then in regards to the same subject matter, because today, food for example is not raised or delivered in the same way it was then, and most certainly is not done in an ethical or loving way. Trump doesn’t know from niceties when he has a job to do or a deadline to meet. Furthermore, as a friendly rebuke, the apostle Paul wasn’t afraid to call out by name the false teachers of his day. Genesis 49:9 uses the analogy of a lion’s cub. As an animal welfarist, I’ve seen my fair share; I can no longer watch the videos, but I do stay informed as to what is happening in the world of animals through various sources like “Farm Sanctuary,” “Mercy For Animals” and others. 65+, CONNECT BY INTEREST On the contrary, the lamb replied that it was the lion who was mudding water for him (lamb) as he was drinking water from upstream. This documentary was so hard to watch that i couldn’t even get half way through it. "Thank you for this ministry! Seasonal Partnerships The almighty is the Lion of Judah just as aslan in the the Chronicle s of Narnia portrayed him the lamb is Christ the last sacrifice, the blood of the lamb. Arts Group It’s a massively important and foreboding vision, however it’s also vital to remember that it’s physical parallel on earth was represented by the “Mercy Seat” that was atop the Ark of the Covenant where the blood was sprinkled by the priest as a substitutionary animal sacrifice – i.e. 651-487-0001 Good luck with the lamb option. Our culture is fixated on things that might end our existence. Hollywood has many movies depicting disasters, viruses, and other ways that the world might end. Young Adults (18-20s) There are those circles that believe Jesus was a vegetarian despite what we read in scripture; there are those that believe what was meant by “meat” in scripture was a word for “food” “or sustenance” not meaning animal flesh. “I have never eaten anything that is not pure and ‘clean.’” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time. As a result, he was about how to accomplish his evil design. As the Lion of Judah, He fulfills the prophecy of Genesis 49:9 and is the Messiah who would come from the tribe of Judah. What do you say about Genesis 9:3? All Rights Reserved. Acts 10:9-16 – In praying ‘Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven’ means we are to live now in as much as is within our power in ways that reflect that peaceable kingdom when all will be restored to perfect shalom again. Lambs are small, young, and utterly defenseless. saints from every tribe and language and people and nation; 10 you have made them to be a kingdom and priests serving our God. Lion or lamb, your choice. It was only several years ago that I started to read Revelation in more 1st century, local terms that I began to understand the images and through them rediscover the Jesus of the gospels. Hi Dave, no, I don’t think we will. This expression continues today, as people see in Revelation a Jesus who will come back with the sword and spread his vengeance. II. We don’t know whether Jesus ate the fish Himself on that occasion, but we are told that He did eat fish with His disciples after the Resurrection in order to confirm that He had risen in the flesh. So the question of mudding water on his part did not arise. High quality Lion And Lamb gifts and merchandise. When Jesus came to earth as fully man/fully God, he entered our created world order; it makes sense He would eat what is being eaten during the culture at that time in order to survive. Again, not passing any judgment, I’ve just begun to learn about consumerism and the more I do learn about it, the more urgent I sense the topic is for all of us to understand! Slides On a practical note: There is always going to be a debate in this area I think…as much as I wish it weren’t so at times and the peaceable kingdom were already here…for the sake of those who are tortured, not for mine. However, in this sermon, Greg shows us how God’s power is best expressed by a sacrificial lamb, and it will continue to be expressed that way in the future. 3 People who eat everything must not look down on those who do not. They also give thanks to God. Search by topic, keyword, speaker, series or year! I can recall looking at the procession as there was a light blue banner being held. Scripture tells us again and again that we are to be merciful and kind to animals, it is everywhere in scripture. Search Sermons I’m so glad that we can discuss this topic. The men were on their journey and were approaching the city. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servants? This page is about collecting evidence that shows prey and predator species interacting peacefully and non-violently with each other. But as we all know though, some people really get into eating these kind of things and I suppose the heart of the matter is simply cultural and what’s available at the time. With Tom Cruise, Meryl Streep, Robert Redford, Michael Peña. © 2020 Woodland Hills Church, St Paul, MN. At last, he hit upon a plan. The Lion and the Lamb surely refer to Christ, with the Lamb referring to His first coming and His death and the Lion referring to His second coming and His sovereign judgment of the world. Special Events For a good read about Christ and consumerism (there are several contributors to this literary work, of which Craig Bartholomew, Thorsten Moritz, Gordon Wenham are three, and I find this work in keeping with Greg’s theology): http://www.reformationalpublishingproject.com/pdf_books/Scanned_Books_PDF/ChristandConsumerism.pdf. And if one becomes hungry enough, well unfortunately almost anything goes! I do support organizations such as the RSPCA and others. But pretty much it means, that the lion should be eating the lamb instead of falling in love with it. 16 This happened three times. 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